if your getting the boxster dont get the 2000 they had the smaller 2.5l engine. 2001 they went to the 2.7 There is nothing wrong with the boxster. It will keep with a 91 911 no problem. There will be less maintenance and better handling. Think about the weight distribution the boxster is almost 50/50 with the mid engine.
Every car series have problems, The 964 had a few in the early years.
1. Engine Cylinder to Cylinder Head Leak: Check that the bottoms of the cylinders where the top meets the head and be sure they are not wet due to a leak. The factory advice was that if there was a drip, it needs to be retrofitted. These early engines didn’t have head gaskets, they mated together without a gasket and worked for many vehicle. My ’91 was made just before the went back to using a gasket and it was OK for the 120,000 miles that I put on it. It was only about 5% of the vehicles that had problems.
2. Broken Distributor Drive Belt: Rough running caused by one of the distributor not rotating because of a broken belt in the #1 Distributor or the distributor to the left side of the engine. Belts are $35 but it takes a little to get to it and change it.
3. Fuel Pump Relay: Engine quits, but starts after sitting for a minute. Bad relay design or application casued over heating and it opens while driving Use the later relay Part Number 993.615.227.00 and keep one in the glove box.
4. Dual Mass Flywheel Failure: The car you are looking at may have already been changed out. Clunks when shutting down. They bad one were used in 1990 to 1991/2. They all do a little, but when they fail they really clunk. The good one if made by LUK.
5. Belly Pan: Get rid of it, they trap heat and accelerate the wear on valve guides.
General Notes about 964’s
Agree with Dr. Phil, Boxster is a Chick Car…not just the feeling of this forum, it is thought of as above in many circles.
These are two different cars for two different lifestyles. The Boxster is smaller, with a smaller engine (mid engine). This also means that you get two small luggage areas which add versatility, but they are pretty small. If you were to get a Boxter, only get the new, 2006- Boxster.
If I was to choose for you, I’d get the 911 because you get an amazing 3.6 liter air cooled flat-six. This is the last generation air cooled Porsche engine, which means it must be pretty good! And it goes plenty fast (c. 160 mph)! The Boxster goes only 139 mph. The ’89 to ’93 911 are known to be much easier to drive than earlier 911′s. There are 2 wheel drive and 4 wheel drive versions differentiated by the badging (Carrera 2/ Carrera 4).
Boxsters have newer water-cooled flat sixes. They are nice, but I think the ’97 to ’05 Boxsters were girlish looking, but it is your decision, and either way, you are going to be happy with either Porsche!!!
Dr. Phil got it right in the fewest words. Tee’s advice is good as well.
Nothing wrong with the Boxster (but be careful of the early models.) It is designed by Porsche but manufactured in Finland! The 911 is a real Porsche, designed and built by Porsche in Germany. The Boxster is sort of a Poseur Porsche.
The 964 (1989-1993 911 models) is a terrific car. Just be sure the engine case seals have already been replaced. This was done under warranty on almost all of them. Around here they can sometimes be purchased for a lower price than a 70′s or 80′s SC or Carrera, so they probably represent the best buy in a used Porsche right now. Value will go up on a well maintained one. So you have the chance to drive a terrific car that will not depreciate.
Also, some people will give me a thumbs down on this, but consider a Tiptronic transmission if you do a lot of city driving. It was finally perfected in the 964, and no flywheel worries. To those critics I say, good enough for Hurley Haywood, good enough for me (or, how many times have you won Le Mans, smart guy?).
The Boxster will be more fun to drive if you get the Boxster S. It will handle better and equal if not slightly better acceleration. The 964 (early 90s 911) will be more difficult to drive aggressively. In the hands of an expert, it will handle almost as well as the Boxster S; in the hands of the layman, the 911 can be scary. The Bosxter is as close to telapathic as you can get for under $100k.
On the other hand, the 911 is a 911 !!!!!! Coolest car ever created, regardless of the year.
I own a 03 Boxster S and a 96 911. That model is far superior to the 964, which you are looking at, and the Boster S is very comparable to the 911 in performance, but it’s easier and cheaper to drive…….just not as cool.
Between me and my husband we’ve owned more MP3 players over the years than I can count, including Sansas, iRivers, iPods (classic & touch), the Ibiza Rhapsody, etc. But, the last few years I’ve settled down to one line of players. Why? Because I was happy to discover how well-designed and fun to use the underappreciated (and widely mocked) Zunes are.
Zune and iPod: Most people compare the Zune to the Touch, but after seeing how slim and surprisingly small and light it is, I consider it to be a rather unique hybrid that combines qualities of both the Touch and the Nano. It’s very colorful and lovely OLED screen is slightly smaller than the touch screen, but the player itself feels quite a bit smaller and lighter. It weighs about 2/3 as much, and is noticeably smaller in width and height, while being just a hair thicker.
Hands down, Apple’s app store wins by a mile. It’s a huge selection of all sorts of apps vs a rather sad selection of a handful for Zune. Microsoft has plans, especially in the realm of games, but I’m not sure I’d want to bet on the future if this aspect is important to you. The iPod is a much better choice in that case.
Hands down, Apple’s app store wins by a mile. It’s a huge selection of all sorts of apps vs a rather sad selection of a handful for Zune. Microsoft has plans, especially in the realm of games, but I’m not sure I’d want to bet on the future if this aspect is important to you. The iPod is a much better choice in that case.
If you’re still on the fence: grab your favorite earphones, head down to a Best Buy and ask to plug them into a Zune then an iPod and see which one sounds better to you, and which interface makes you smile more. Then you’ll know which is right for you.
If you’re still on the fence: grab your favorite earphones, head down to a Best Buy and ask to plug them into a Zune then an iPod and see which one sounds better to you, and which interface makes you smile more. Then you’ll know which is right for you.
Zune and iPod: Most people compare the Zune to the Touch, but after seeing how slim and surprisingly small and light it is, I consider it to be a rather unique hybrid that combines qualities of both the Touch and the Nano. It’s very colorful and lovely OLED screen is slightly smaller than the touch screen, but the player itself feels quite a bit smaller and lighter. It weighs about 2/3 as much, and is noticeably smaller in width and height, while being just a hair thicker.
The new Zune browser is surprisingly good, but not as good as the iPod’s. It works well, but isn’t as fast as Safari, and has a clunkier interface. If you occasionally plan on using the web browser that’s not an issue, but if you’re planning to browse the web alot from your PMP then the iPod’s larger screen and better browser may be important.
Zune and iPod: Most people compare the Zune to the Touch, but after seeing how slim and surprisingly small and light it is, I consider it to be a rather unique hybrid that combines qualities of both the Touch and the Nano. It’s very colorful and lovely OLED screen is slightly smaller than the touch screen, but the player itself feels quite a bit smaller and lighter. It weighs about 2/3 as much, and is noticeably smaller in width and height, while being just a hair thicker.
The Zune concentrates on being a Portable Media Player. Not a web browser. Not a game machine. Maybe in the future it’ll do even better in those areas, but for now it’s a fantastic way to organize and listen to your music and videos, and is without peer in that regard. The iPod’s strengths are its web browsing and apps. If those sound more compelling, perhaps it is your best choice.
sensible choice is the boxter,
911 is the real deal though, amazing engineering, build quality, performance.
head says boxter, heart says 911.
Those early years were not good for the Boxster. You can check for yourself. Those were good years for the 911, which has had very few bd years.
oooh tough question…
if you wanna look like a connoisseur, get the 911 — its a classic model
if you want the porsche just to say “hey, i own a porsche!” get the boxter
your choice man
if your getting the boxster dont get the 2000 they had the smaller 2.5l engine. 2001 they went to the 2.7 There is nothing wrong with the boxster. It will keep with a 91 911 no problem. There will be less maintenance and better handling. Think about the weight distribution the boxster is almost 50/50 with the mid engine.
Get a 911. Specifically a 911 Turbo.
They perform better, and i’ve never heard of any problems with them.
Every car series have problems, The 964 had a few in the early years.
1. Engine Cylinder to Cylinder Head Leak: Check that the bottoms of the cylinders where the top meets the head and be sure they are not wet due to a leak. The factory advice was that if there was a drip, it needs to be retrofitted. These early engines didn’t have head gaskets, they mated together without a gasket and worked for many vehicle. My ’91 was made just before the went back to using a gasket and it was OK for the 120,000 miles that I put on it. It was only about 5% of the vehicles that had problems.
2. Broken Distributor Drive Belt: Rough running caused by one of the distributor not rotating because of a broken belt in the #1 Distributor or the distributor to the left side of the engine. Belts are $35 but it takes a little to get to it and change it.
3. Fuel Pump Relay: Engine quits, but starts after sitting for a minute. Bad relay design or application casued over heating and it opens while driving Use the later relay Part Number 993.615.227.00 and keep one in the glove box.
4. Dual Mass Flywheel Failure: The car you are looking at may have already been changed out. Clunks when shutting down. They bad one were used in 1990 to 1991/2. They all do a little, but when they fail they really clunk. The good one if made by LUK.
5. Belly Pan: Get rid of it, they trap heat and accelerate the wear on valve guides.
General Notes about 964’s
Agree with Dr. Phil, Boxster is a Chick Car…not just the feeling of this forum, it is thought of as above in many circles.
These are two different cars for two different lifestyles. The Boxster is smaller, with a smaller engine (mid engine). This also means that you get two small luggage areas which add versatility, but they are pretty small. If you were to get a Boxter, only get the new, 2006- Boxster.
If I was to choose for you, I’d get the 911 because you get an amazing 3.6 liter air cooled flat-six. This is the last generation air cooled Porsche engine, which means it must be pretty good! And it goes plenty fast (c. 160 mph)! The Boxster goes only 139 mph. The ’89 to ’93 911 are known to be much easier to drive than earlier 911′s. There are 2 wheel drive and 4 wheel drive versions differentiated by the badging (Carrera 2/ Carrera 4).
Boxsters have newer water-cooled flat sixes. They are nice, but I think the ’97 to ’05 Boxsters were girlish looking, but it is your decision, and either way, you are going to be happy with either Porsche!!!
for a man the 911, a woman the boxster
Dr. Phil got it right in the fewest words. Tee’s advice is good as well.
Nothing wrong with the Boxster (but be careful of the early models.) It is designed by Porsche but manufactured in Finland! The 911 is a real Porsche, designed and built by Porsche in Germany. The Boxster is sort of a Poseur Porsche.
The 964 (1989-1993 911 models) is a terrific car. Just be sure the engine case seals have already been replaced. This was done under warranty on almost all of them. Around here they can sometimes be purchased for a lower price than a 70′s or 80′s SC or Carrera, so they probably represent the best buy in a used Porsche right now. Value will go up on a well maintained one. So you have the chance to drive a terrific car that will not depreciate.
Also, some people will give me a thumbs down on this, but consider a Tiptronic transmission if you do a lot of city driving. It was finally perfected in the 964, and no flywheel worries. To those critics I say, good enough for Hurley Haywood, good enough for me (or, how many times have you won Le Mans, smart guy?).
The Boxster will be more fun to drive if you get the Boxster S. It will handle better and equal if not slightly better acceleration. The 964 (early 90s 911) will be more difficult to drive aggressively. In the hands of an expert, it will handle almost as well as the Boxster S; in the hands of the layman, the 911 can be scary. The Bosxter is as close to telapathic as you can get for under $100k.
On the other hand, the 911 is a 911 !!!!!! Coolest car ever created, regardless of the year.
I own a 03 Boxster S and a 96 911. That model is far superior to the 964, which you are looking at, and the Boster S is very comparable to the 911 in performance, but it’s easier and cheaper to drive…….just not as cool.
boxster, 90 to 91 911′s are pieces of shit
The 911. You won’t loose as much money when you sell it and it is such a wonderful car to drive.
Between me and my husband we’ve owned more MP3 players over the years than I can count, including Sansas, iRivers, iPods (classic & touch), the Ibiza Rhapsody, etc. But, the last few years I’ve settled down to one line of players. Why? Because I was happy to discover how well-designed and fun to use the underappreciated (and widely mocked) Zunes are.
Zune and iPod: Most people compare the Zune to the Touch, but after seeing how slim and surprisingly small and light it is, I consider it to be a rather unique hybrid that combines qualities of both the Touch and the Nano. It’s very colorful and lovely OLED screen is slightly smaller than the touch screen, but the player itself feels quite a bit smaller and lighter. It weighs about 2/3 as much, and is noticeably smaller in width and height, while being just a hair thicker.
Hands down, Apple’s app store wins by a mile. It’s a huge selection of all sorts of apps vs a rather sad selection of a handful for Zune. Microsoft has plans, especially in the realm of games, but I’m not sure I’d want to bet on the future if this aspect is important to you. The iPod is a much better choice in that case.
Hands down, Apple’s app store wins by a mile. It’s a huge selection of all sorts of apps vs a rather sad selection of a handful for Zune. Microsoft has plans, especially in the realm of games, but I’m not sure I’d want to bet on the future if this aspect is important to you. The iPod is a much better choice in that case.
If you’re still on the fence: grab your favorite earphones, head down to a Best Buy and ask to plug them into a Zune then an iPod and see which one sounds better to you, and which interface makes you smile more. Then you’ll know which is right for you.
If you’re still on the fence: grab your favorite earphones, head down to a Best Buy and ask to plug them into a Zune then an iPod and see which one sounds better to you, and which interface makes you smile more. Then you’ll know which is right for you.
Zune and iPod: Most people compare the Zune to the Touch, but after seeing how slim and surprisingly small and light it is, I consider it to be a rather unique hybrid that combines qualities of both the Touch and the Nano. It’s very colorful and lovely OLED screen is slightly smaller than the touch screen, but the player itself feels quite a bit smaller and lighter. It weighs about 2/3 as much, and is noticeably smaller in width and height, while being just a hair thicker.
The new Zune browser is surprisingly good, but not as good as the iPod’s. It works well, but isn’t as fast as Safari, and has a clunkier interface. If you occasionally plan on using the web browser that’s not an issue, but if you’re planning to browse the web alot from your PMP then the iPod’s larger screen and better browser may be important.
Zune and iPod: Most people compare the Zune to the Touch, but after seeing how slim and surprisingly small and light it is, I consider it to be a rather unique hybrid that combines qualities of both the Touch and the Nano. It’s very colorful and lovely OLED screen is slightly smaller than the touch screen, but the player itself feels quite a bit smaller and lighter. It weighs about 2/3 as much, and is noticeably smaller in width and height, while being just a hair thicker.
The Zune concentrates on being a Portable Media Player. Not a web browser. Not a game machine. Maybe in the future it’ll do even better in those areas, but for now it’s a fantastic way to organize and listen to your music and videos, and is without peer in that regard. The iPod’s strengths are its web browsing and apps. If those sound more compelling, perhaps it is your best choice.